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Hello and good afternoon all. Well today was a milestone. Why you may ask?

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Well on June 26, 2014 I ordered the new Fresenius Troubleshooting Bible I mean manual. I just received it today!!!! Talk about insane. I thought they were supposed to make your job easier??? That is ridiculous that it was backordered for that lenght of time. And the irony of the whole thing is just today our clinic found out that we are getting 30 brand new B Braun machines!!! How do you like them apples Fresenius????

So that brings the question to all the great people on this site, does anybody have these and how are they to work on? I of course will have to go to the training class, but a little nervous learning a whole new machine.

Fresenius troubleshooting manual here's my aquijano58@ I received the hard copy of the k/k2 troubleshooting guide #507298 rev.E yesterday. 334 pages with lot of [PDF] 216 Engine Manual.pdf Fresenius k2 machine spare parts manual - manuals Fresenius k2 machine spare parts manual. FRESENIUS 2018H HEMODIALYSIS SYSTEM. 4008 E / 4008 B / 4008 H / 4008 S the machine/device and options. Purpose This Technical Manual is intended for service technicians and is to be used for for 4008.

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I have heard they are great and easy to work on. Any thoughts or comments. Registered: 24 November 2013 posted 27 March 2015 05:29 AM. Hi Doug, I used to have Braun and wish I still did! You will love the internal disinfection log that you can check! Here is something else you will like, accessing the hydraulics from the front or rear of the machine and being able to swivel the monitor!!!

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Cutting edge stuff! But seriously it is very nice! Wands get disinfected with the machine! NO MORE acid, bicarb or uf springs!!!!!!!!!

A nurse told me who had worked with both that the Braun gives better direction on how to resolve the current problem! I use Braun coiled acid tubing on my K & T in room machines! Fresenius told me to just use 6 ft of tubing to connect to the loop! I think that might be an option for coiled tubing for acid and bicarb when purchased or its easy to put on after you get your machines. You will get to see technology at work instead of a 20 yr old out dated machine!

SK8 posted 27 March 2015 07:07 AM. Doug, congratulations on your good fortune. At B Braun, we are proud of our machines and our customer support. You will have the ability to talk to the Tech department directly, through fax or email (depending on urgency) or even your Customer Support engineer for your area for questions and problem resolution. And this goes for the operators, too. Troubleshooting is done via on-screen tests and the service manual (which you get after attending the class).

Enjoy. Location: Kansas  Registered: 22 May 2014 Ignored post by posted 27 March 2015 11:16 AM posted 31 March 2015 04:34 AM. If Germany doesn't go back to making the machines for the purpose of cleaning blood instead of selling dime-store parts, they won't be winning long. When you factor the amount of money that goes into repairing junk equipment, the damage to morale on staff, patients, and biomed, a company would be crazy to not put down more money up-front for better machines in exchange for uninterrupted treatments and savings in the thousands in repairs for designed-to-break blood pumps, rinse ports, regulators, etc. If the Germans got a problem with it, they could've continued the heritage of the E and H machines and made them to work, not break. They became #1 because of machines like the H, not the K2; the planned obsolescence pinball machine that just so happens to dialyze patients between breakdowns. I wish I worked higher on the big F's ladder, I'd have the head of the guy who came up with all these downgraded parts.

When the factory rolls a K2 off the assembly line, the first thing quality control should do with it is wheel it across the parking lot and toss it in the dumpster. Leave planned obsolescence to coffee makers and toasters, not life-support machinery. Posted 01 April 2015 12:59 PM. I have worked on K, K2, Phoenix, and BBraun. Without a doubt anything Fresenius is junk.

I can't believe anyone outside Fresenius clincs buy these things. A properly maintained Phoenix machine is far and beyond the best machine out there. I got new BBrauns last year. Was really excited for them. Training was great, couldn't wait to get them. 3 months in over half the machines needed repairs and warranty parts. From mother boards, to monitors, to ademias, to chemical intake, to bicarb arm sensors, random operating system errors, BSLs.

BBraun DOES have the most excellent customer and tech support. Their people are EXTREMELY knowlageable and their tech support works miracles over the phone. I like the overall design of their machines, a lot of nice bells and whistles that gambro and Fresenius should have, but they have more bugs in them then an ant farm. I notice gambros tech support reads word for word out of the exact same book I am looking at when I call them, and Fresenius. Do they even have tech support??.sarcasm. In my eyes BBraun has a ton of potential, but in my clinic they definitely do not live up to the hype I've heard of them.

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Posted 02 April 2015 12:40 PM. Half of my clinics are Phoenix. One clinic has 44 of them. I have some OLD ones (WAY past their expected service life) which are fairly reliable and some which are less than 3 yrs old that are complete POSs. I understand that the way they work, they are GOING to fail. Especially when you run them 3 shifts/6 days per week.

That being said, the parts are OUTRAGEOUS in cost! The stupid 'concentrate tray' (machine toilet half of the time) is almost $300! And they SEVERELY lowered the quality of the material in the past year or so. You look at it wrong, it cracks.causing a slip hazard.

The other half of our units are Ks. I did a study of our repairs for 2014. Our machine breakdown is.almost. 50/50 (K and Phoenix). Our repairs for the year: nearly 50/50. Keeping that in mind, why would we pay $800 for a new parastaltic pump ($400 for a rebuild kit)for something that is going to fail (and there are 4 of them in each machine don't forget)when we could replace the acid AND bicarb pumps in a F machine for half the cost?

And heaven help you if you get a wiring problem on a Phoenix.because I have all kinds of time to pin out the 45 connectors on the motherboard to hopefully find a bad wire and run a new one. The mfr already told me that wiring problems boil down to the basics: meter, schematic, pot of coffee and the better part of a day. I'm not saying I'm anything special when it comes to fixing machines (Lord knows they find new ways everyday to remind me of that fact!), but I don't buy/change parts on a whim. I just think that fiscally, F's machines (of the two) are the way to go.

I can't speak for BBs since I have never worked with them. But we are already looking into what it will take to off-load these Phoenix beasts at the earliest possible time. And on a side note, I called H&S about Pheonix PCBs. They told me they don't keep a stock of them because so many people are getting away from the Phoenix machines. Independent confirmation of what I already knew.